G. Gordon Liddy (Photo by Roger Rich)

I don’t mean for this to read like an “I was there” account … but I was there. It was Sept. 18, 1990, and the All-College Council billed it as “The Main Event.”

In one corner, weighing in as an advocate of psychedelic drugs during the 1960s and with enough arrests to see the inside of prisons around the world, stood Dr. Timothy Leary. And in the other corner, weighing in as the chief operative for the White House Plumbers of Watergate fame during the presidency of Richard Nixon, stood G. Gordon Liddy.

This unlikely duo, polar opposites politically, spoke at St. Thomas in the O’Shaughnessy Educational Center auditorium. They debated, more or less, “The State of the Mind vs. the Mind of the State.”

Leary, an author and psychologist and professor at Harvard University, is famous for his “Turn on – Tune in – Drop Out” manifesto (a slogan which he got from Marshall McLuhan, a philosopher of communication theory). Leary died at the age of 75 in 1996. Liddy, 82, is famous for his leading role in the Watergate break-in and refusing to testify to the U.S. Senate committee investigating the scandal.

Observing these two icons of the ’60s and ’70s verbally sparring made for an interesting hour, although it was something of a vaudeville act. They had their shtick down pat after making the rounds of college campuses for several years.

I recall well a memorable exchange after Leary described how he first met Liddy – years earlier when Liddy, an assistant district attorney at the time, led a raid on his home.

Liddy responded: “Dr. Leary is not lying about what happened; he just can’t remember.” The standing-room-only audience laughed. But those were not funny times for the “State of the Mind” or the “Mind of the State.”

I think I gave the fight to Liddy on points, but I just can’t remember.

~Tom Couillard ’75


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  1. Paul

    Wow, this is the second picture I have seen of these two together, the other one is of them a few years younger. Seeing these two opposites together, reminds me, as they symbolize what is now backed up by a great deal of evidence to suggest that the entire 1960’s counterculture was, for the most part, a series of planned out, contrived events. I mean, finding out Jim Morrison’s father (George S. Morrison) was an admiral in the US Navy and directly involved with the, now admitted, false flag event known as the Gulf of Tonkin attack, should raise an eyebrow. Or how about the fact that virtually every major rock star of that time came out of a suburb of Los Angeles (Laurel Canyon) and their parents were either working for the government/military. Or that Woodstock was a CIA experiment, as it is now known they are the folks who supplied the LSD to the attendees. A guy named Hank Harrison, one the Greatful Dead’s first band managers, worked with the CIA and has stated that band was promoting the hippie movement for the CIA. Harrison would later be known as the father of Courtney Love, who you can’t say doesn’t have MKUltra written all over her. Cheers.

  2. Tom Hodgson

    Tom, I was there, too, and came away with the same impression: This was a well-rehearsed dog-and-pony show designed to parlay their significant name recognition into easy money.

    Entertaining? Perhaps, a little. Thought provoking? Only if you spent time wondering how many library journals, academic scholarship enhancements, or trees could have been purchased for the fee they charged.


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